Right at the very first verse of the Bible we see a phenomenon that separates the KJB from virtually all modern versions. The KJB translates shamayim as heaven and every modern version I could find renders it heavens.
The Hebrew word is a “plural of majesty“, meaning it is a plural word intended to be used in the singular. For example, the queen might say, “We are famished.”, even though she is referring only to herself. Being royalty, she refers to herself with a plural. I suppose if the queen is royalty enough to use the term as a “majestic plural”, so is God when He speaks of His creation. There are other Bible words used the same way, such as Elohim, one of the Hebrew words for God.
The other reason the KJB is correct is that, in the initial creation, God make one heaven and the rest of Genesis chapter 1 describes how He subsequently divided it into two heavens. One where the birds fly and the other where the sun, moon, and stars are. Later we learn the throne of God is in the “third heaven”.
Thus, from the very first verse, we see the King James Bible is different than all the rest – and correctly so.
The Beginning
There is also another issue in Genesis 1:1 between the KJB and several modern versions
(KJB) Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
(ALL but Douay) … heavenS
NRSV: In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth.
ComEB: When God began to create the heavens and the earth
GNB: In the beginning, when God created the universe
Young: In the beginning of God’s preparing the heavens and the earth
These modern versions are worded much more nebulously. They do not necessarily point back to the same “beginning” of the creation week where Adam and Eve were created (Matt 19:4, Mark 10:6). Adding “when” makes is possible for this to be a different beginning than the one in Mark 10:6. Putting “when” at the beginning, like the CEB version does, allows the creation to occur at anytime, not necessarily in the beginning at all. That could allow billions of years to exist before this creation. Adding “of” does the same thing. Which readings would evolutionists prefer?
Mark 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
Matt 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Just so you know the Jewish publication society has a translation of the Torah where it is the singular “Heaven” also.
Okay, that makes ONE out of over 1,000, but it’s one very few people even know about, let alone use.
yes, But it should be a positive thing when others especially Jewish translations take a stand with the authorized version. 😉
But is it okay to read the NIV or ESV instead? Because that’s what I’ve always read. So does it matter what version of the Bible you read?
You will find dozens of short articles on the Bible versions here: https://av400.blogspot.com/
“Heaven” is correct. The Heaven is so named & defined in verse 8 as the “Firmament”. It is the divider of the waters above from the waters below (h2o). There is water above the firmament, not outer space. The sky is strong as a molten looking glass (Job 37:18), holding up the waters above (Psalm 148:4). God sits above these waters in the third heaven looking down on the circle of the earth (Isaiah 40:22), not the sphere of earth. The birds fly in the open firmament of heaven, so unless they breathe in outer space the firmament is the enclosed protective canopy over the spread out earth containing the sun, moon, stars, & atmosphere of air (otherwise wouldn’t the air escape & fly off into space especially on a globe spinning 67,000 miles an hr. around the sun as claimed by the world system. The reason the modern versions say “heavens” plural is because they follow science falsely so called & want to open up the firmament to a supposed infinite outer space where everything is relative (humanism) & there is no real “up” or “down” , making the Word of God seem void / outmoded in it’s cosmology helping the mockers & skeptics. It generates confusion but God is not the Author of confusion.
Something to consider, food for thought.
The “Heaven” ( the firmament, second heaven) wasn’t created until vs.8 in Genesis 1. In Genesis 1:1 in the beginning there was only one heaven. In vs.2 the earth was completely submerged in water and in darkness. Many believe that this is how God started, but a word study about “darkness” and floods of waters shows that the condition of the earth being without form and void, submerged in waters and in darkness shows that this is not a result of God’s creative act, but a result of his Judgement. This was a flood of universal proportions. God made the firmament to get the earth out of the waters. The waters under the firmament became the seas on earth, then there are waters ABOVE the firmament, which means, that there are waters ABOVE the second heaven (called Heaven, the second heaven, outer space) in verse 8, that separate the second from the third heaven. This is not a “vapor canopy” above the earth’s atmosphere. Psalm 148:4 ” Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.
I believe the AV translators did this because they understood there was a GAP between Gen.1:1 and Gen.1:2. They realized that the 6 days of God restoring the earth and heaven begins in Gen.1:3. Therefore when God divides the waters He then refers to each division as heaven. Collectively He refers to them in the plural (Gen.2:1). The firmament would be all of what we call outer space and our earth atmosphere (firmament). That puts the waters above the firmament at the end of the cosmos (Gen.1:7). God also restores order to the sun, the moon and the stars in the firmament (Gen.1:14-18).
I don’t believe there has to be a gap for it to be an accurate translation. With or without a gap, God goes on to separate the heavenS from the heaven in the rest of the chapter.
There must be a gap and it is yet another proof of the accuracy of Bible.
The gap between verses 1 and 2 addresses one single thing, which is the fall of Lucifer. If you dismiss the gap and the fall of Lucifer during this time, then you simply cannot explain the beginning of the Bible and sin. For example, Genesis 1:2 would make no sense because “God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.”
Genesis 1:3 is God allowing His light to shine and divide the darkness (judgment) from it. It was not until Day 4 that God created the sun, moon and stars (not the same light found in verse 3)
God is bringing us full circle back Genesis 1:1, His original intent.
Note these verses to reference the gap/fall of Lucifer:
Job 38:4-7, Isaiah 14:12-15, Ezekiel 28:13-17 (Lucifer as the anointed cherub, not Satan, at this point had been in Eden)
Genesis 2:8-9, 15 – God created the tree of knowledge of good and evil in Eden and placed man in Eden to keep it (protect it). This tree would not be present if it weren’t for the fall of Lucifer between verses 1 and 2. Also, God would not have man to protect the garden if Lucifer, now Satan and the fallen angles were not present and trying to destroy God’s re-creation.
No gap necessary for Lucifer to fall. God created darkness. You’re creating conflicts that do mot exist.
Did you look at any of the verses I referenced? Also, could you please explain how God created darkness? I don’t understand.
Is 45:7 I form the light, and **create darkness**: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
I might add. Heaven in Gen.1:1 we would assume to be God’s and the angels’ domain. When God made this division between His domain and the firmament, it is the only day that He did not say “it was good” (Gen.1:6-8).
It’s also the only day nothing was actually created, so there was nothing that hadn’t already been declared “good” and nothing that needed to be declared “good”. What was previously created had already been declared “good”, and the entire week was called “very good”.
Derek R’s insight is important to understanding Genesis 1. This Chapter is the story of the creation of human autonomy, or free will. God has no personal use of man’s free will but it is vital to our experience of our existence and our quest to know Him. As Derek points out, after Day 2, it was not said of the creation of the vault that it was good. Importantly, however, He also did not say that it was bad. If the vault was only bad, this chapter would have called that out since good is mentioned so repeatedly (7 times). Free will is neither good nor bad. Our autonomy is, however, always subjective; i.e. we get to decide what is and what is not real and that decision can be either a good or a bad one. Now, revisit the first creation day. The same pattern of omission is observed wherein, God sees that day, or light is good and then he goes on to create the night with no determination of good or bad i.e. God also does not say that night was good. God is light. Our mission is to know him. We have the option, however, to choose not to know him. Next, pay close attention to “And there was evening, and there was morning”. This phrase repeats 6 times and every time it repeats after God has already declared His creation of that day to be good. They are therefore also neither good nor bad in and of themselves; that is our call to make. Evening and morning are neither night nor day. They’re the hazy middle between the two; are the confusion of the faithful or the fearful, who cannot fully decide, one way or the other. This indecisiveness is judged by the repetition of that phrase 6 times. 6 is God’s number for those human decisions in which we do not decide to submit to His perfect love. Now, let’s revisit Day 2 and the vault. It is in our atmosphere in which we find the light (during the day). It’s a problem that has confounded scientists forever that the sky beyond our atmosphere is not light (called Olbers’ Paradox). That problem, however, isn’t, in fact, such a quandary. From our vantage point on earth, we are subject to Einstein’s theory of relativity as result of earth’s rotation and its resulting gravitation. Relativity is complex but its application here is simplified by its axiom; the equivalence principle, which states that energy is equivalent to mass and therefore subject to gravity. On earth then, we observe light within Earth’s gravitational field or, within the vault during the day while on the earth. At night, the vault does not display light thanks to the wave nature of light emitting from our sun and so, we have dark night. In the darkness, humans decide for themselves what is real and what isn’t – we get to choose to know God or to reject Him. The other elements of the creation were made so that we can find Him in them and make the righteous decision to know Him.
The most informative knowledge and significant is that of Gen.1:1 that the father is the only God there is no other not one ! If Christianity could get back to basics and understand that Jesus is the actual literal son of this singular God and father and creator of all.
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. – revised standard version translated from the original languages being the version set forth A.D. 1611…
Genesis 1:1 in the rsv clearly states in the preface that all changes (from the KJV) to verses are indicated by a footnote. There is no footnote in the rsv explaining heavenS plural. The KJV used to also be written “the heavens”. This is why Abba has instructed us to hide The Word in our heart. There are verses that indicate that the protection over pages in books has been lifted ( Daniel and Revelation) We are warned of there being a famine for the word of God (Amos 8:11). That famine has already begun. There is a strong delusion that has also already begun. The Word of God will be settled in heaven. -psalm 119:89. Please note this is not written “the heaven” nor is the Lord’s prayer (also tampered with in todays kjv) written “Our Father who art in the heaven”… If genesis 1:1 is heaven singular, then there is no “the” or there should be no “the”. The forensic evidence for this is found in other bible verses where heaven singular is used whether it is in Genesis, the gospels or the epistles. The changes are in all translations but the kjv has the most. Forensic evidence is found in numerous grammar errors now supernaturally happening in bibles. The kjv has these, “we be” “do God” “gender strife” “ravening” “builded” “asswaged” “help meet” These demonic corruptions are happening dearly beloved. Isaiah 11:6 (and Isaiah 65:25) should be sewn in your heart as “lion and lamb” not wolf and lamb. If you read word by word Isaiah 11:1-5 very carefully as though seeking treasure, you will perceive that verse 6 is lion based upon the context of the totality of scripture.
The starting point for seeing these corruptions to the recorded scriptures, concordances and dictionaries is being born again and led of The Holy Spirit. A good chapter to see the numerous changes is Luke chapter 6 kjv. There are multiple changes to verses in this chapter. May you be blessed with understanding in these final days and stay very close to The Good Shepherd and The Word of God Jesus. Pray and test to see if these changes are so.
No the KJB did not used to also be written “the heavens”. Not in the 1611, or the 1769 used today. I don’t have time to answer all your accusations, but that alone shows they are nonsense. The Hebrew words for wolf and lion are quite different and the word for wolf is in Is 11:6 and Is 65:25
Well said. There was so much nonsense in that post. Too much to respond to, agreed.
The author writes; The other reason the KJB is correct is that, in the initial creation, God make one heaven and the rest of Genesis chapter 1 describes how He subsequently divided it into two heavens. One where the birds fly and the other where the sun, moon, and stars are. Later we learn the throne of God is in the “third heaven”.
If this theory of God initially making one heaven is correct, then I strongly believe that Genesis 1:1 would have to be written, “In the beginning God created heaven and earth.” If you or I do a study on every other bible verse containing the words “heaven” and “heavens” this is clearly the conclusion seen in . If we study the guidelines or rules given to the translators of the 1611 KJB, we read that they were forbidden to change any of the Old Testament prophets names in the New Testament. So now we have to account for how and when Jeremiah, Isaiah, and Noah are given nicknames in the kjv – Jeremy, Esias, Noe. The bible changes are numerous and undeniable. It matters not if someone ‘refuses’ to believe. Paul did not rob other churches, he did not visit castles, he did not change his instructions in his epistles ( he now says regarding the gospel to bear with them if they preach another Jesus ) yet in addressing another church says let them be accursed. In todays re-booted kjb, we even have nursing fathers and many other blasphemies.
Abba is now preserving The Word in the body of Christ, the remnant believers who have been obedient to hide the word of God in their heart. The conquering Lion of Judah will soon return and set straight the sorceries of this present evil age.
Please email me if you would like resources or have any questions regarding these changes. May you be blessed with understanding.
Sigh! You forgot to quote that rule about prophet’s names. There is no problem with the Greek giving the Greek spelling of those names. Paul might indeed have robbed churches, he certainly robbed churches of members. Still, that verse in question didn’t say Paul was the one who robbed them. He certainly visited castles, AKA palaces.
Is that the best you can do?
Greetings Teno. These bible changes are real and there are so many of them it is very difficult to imagine someone not seeing them. Do you seriously think God made Adam a “help meet”? Or that “asswaged” is the voice of Abba? Do you truly think all publications of the kjvb should have “gender strifes”? You are also able to do a word by word and line by line study of Isaiah 11 on the millenial reign of Christ. Verse 1 and 2 are identifying the pre-existent lamb of God (the root of Jesse) Verse 3 on judgement, is indicating an attribute of lamb AND lion. Verses 4 and 5 are describing the Lion of Judah. Now as the crescendo and building upon verses 1-5, who would be indicated in verse 6 based upon a detailed study? It definitely is not wolf! All these verses should have you visiting other scriptures to experience the symmetry and majesty of God’s living word and the amazing scope of His prophecies. There are hundreds of examples of Isaiah 11:6 that taken together constitute proof of how this verse originally was. These examples are from the 16th century up until very recently. There are books, movies, t.v. shows, a university emblem, speeches, articles, rabbinic commentaries, Pastors comments (J. Vernon Mcgee, John Piper, and Chuck Smith amongst many others) songs, hymns, childrens literature, collectibles and pictures all quoting Isaiah 11:6 as the lion shall lay down with the lamb. Paul Bunyon in his excellent book “A Pilgrim’s Progress” 1688 also quotes this verse as lion and lamb. Paul Bunyon was referred to by his friends as ” the walking bible” and yet he got this important verse wrong? No he didnt! It has been changed, lying signs and wonders are here. Please Teno. Wake up!
So Paul now says in the re-boot kjv, For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. -2 Corinthians 11:4 yet in Galatians Paul says, But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. -Galatians 1:8,9. So Teno which is it? Which verse does The Holy Spirit bear witness to? Do you Teno hear the voice of The Good Shepherd? Are you born of the spirit? Paul did not rob other churches and he did not visit ‘castles’. Help meet? Gender strifes? Do God? We be? God has a Father? Nursing Fathers? Jesus says ‘sleep on’ to the disciples regarding falling asleep while he asked them to pray? Paul’s gospel? Two men in one bed? Two women grinding? Jesus wears shoes? “Whose shoe latchets I am not worthy…”? We are saved by hope now? The disciples pick ears of corn? Holy of Holies is now the most Holy place? Romans 8:28 “the called”? Romans 6:6 “oldness” ? Matthew 6:25 “by and by in a charger the head of John the Baptist.” ? Sodom and Egypt?
Read this verse Teno and tell me if this is the voice of our Good Shepherd, So and more also do God unto the enemies of David, if I leave of all that pertain to him by the morning light any that pisseth against the wall.
23 And when Abigail saw David, she hasted, and lighted off the ass, and fell before David on her face, and bowed herself to the ground,
24 And fell at his feet, and said, Upon me, my lord, upon me let this iniquity be: and let thine handmaid, I pray thee, speak in thine audience, and hear the words of thine handmaid.
-1 Samuel 25:22-24 kjv
Or this verse; And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. -Revelation 1:13 kjv. Jesus is wearing womens lingerie now? Do you perceive this description of The Conquering Lion of Judah as being God-breathed? “About his paps”?
Teno re-read Luke chapter 6 kjv slowly and very carefully. There are multiple changes to important verses. They should jump out at you as not being inspired but instead having been altered and perverted. Did you sew the golden rule in your heart? It is veey short, simple, concise and yet a powerful sword. “Judge not ________________” hint this verse is NOT a double negative! Except that it has been magically (demonically) changed. Please wake up Teno! Time is short. Please watch this video. https://youtu.be/6E5Yty3UcqQ Verses begin at about the 4 minute mark. You can see a very small sample of corrupted / changed verses for your self. May you be blessed with understanding. May you write the words on the tablet of your heart. May your calling and election be sure that Jesus be glorified.
Yes, Eve was made to be a help meet for Adam. The flood waters asswaged. You are simply denying scripture.
Paul Bunyon was not God. I’d trust God’s word over Bunyon’s when they differ. You clearly trust the words of men over God.
We can bear with false teachers and they can also be accursed. There is no contradiction there.
You didn’t even show what your objection was to most of the verses you mentioned.
Greetings Teno.
Heaven or heavens?
Here are 2 examples (there are several more) from the 16th and 18th century of the change to Genesis 1:1 in the kjb. This is strong evidence for heavenS plural and is less than 3 minutes in length. https://youtu.be/tuJ6jACD-do
Have you anything to say on “do gender strifes” ? Got a KJB that has this verse rendered correctly?
Did you know that Paul has his own gospel now? This is just one blasphemy of many in the re-boot version of bibles. So do you have a good explanation for Paul writing about “the gospel of Christ” and having his own gospel? There is a mocking tone on this change… Paul is now accursed based upon the changed bibles! The enemy is banking on most professing Christians not being awake, caring or noticing or being bothered. You can wave this off also but it is (now) written;
Romans 2:16
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Romans 16:25
Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began.
Yes Paul received revelation but The Word does not allow for 2 gospels… until now. Do you have the word hidden in your heart Teno?
I pray that you are following The Word of God – Jesus, and that you hear clearly his voice, spirit filled and abiding in Christ.
What is wrong with warning about gendering strifes? Are you under conviction because that verse is impugning exactly what you’re doing here?
2 Tim 2:23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
Yes, Paul’s gospel of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ was new at the time.
Response to Teno.
Oh boy Teno, congratulations for patience. Bryan, is the king of Red Herrings.
The Lion / Wolf red herring Isa11:6, I have yet to find a manuscript that says Lion. The Lion myth about Isa 11:6 is just like as I grew up believing that Eve took a bite from an ‘apple’, I have yet find a manuscript that does not say she ate from the “tree of knowledge” Men say apple tree, God says tree of knowledge of good and evil . I was also taught Eve had one less rib than Adam and that Noah’s ark was so small it had giraffe and elephant heads poking out the portholes… Bunyan et al. may have said Lion in Isa11:6, but what the BIBLE says is what matters. God bless you Teno.
Sadly, there are so many corrupt bibles today I understand Bryans confusion. If the foundation be destroyed what the righteous do Ps 11:3. Bryan seems sincere in his defence of truth but the magnitude of his errors is quite concerning [Jesuitical even?].
Thanks for your input Teno about Heaven being singular Gen3:1. This topic is my purpose for reading the posts thus far as it is another anti-KJV red herring that I only became aware of recently.
Of the three heavens Paul refers to:
1. Atmosphere ( clouds, rain, blue sky etc),
2. Outer space (firmament in which are Sun Moon and stars exist – Lights Gen1:14).
3. Spritual Heaven, where God resides ( eternally existant)…
In context we see in Gen 3:1 that God could not be talking about the heaven that is eternally existant, the heaven where he already resides in (ie. without beginning or end). How could he be creating that which already exists eternally?,
Nor is Gen 1:3 referring to the ‘firmament’ because that is a separate creation which the bible itself says was created on another DAY (Gen 1:7-8).
In context, therefore, Heaven is correct as singular in Gen 3:1. It is the heaven of the earth.
Some of Bryans specious arguments sound fine, but have no foundation when checked. He claims earlier King James Bibles said HEAVENs (plural). I have yet to find any KJV that says plural. The 1611 kjv said HEAUEN (singular)… even far back as when a V was typfaced as a U in ‘ye olde’ English… Heaven was singular.
Let God be true, and every man a liar.
Greetings Teno.
Generate strife is what you are thinking of and what the kjb once conveyed. My shepherd is Jesus of Nazareth and it is his voice that I hear. Keep in mind the forensic evidence for the kjb being supernaturally changed is in the horrendous grammar found on nearly every single page. There are NOW misspelled words, non-sensical sentences, run on sentences, over hyphenated names, lower case references to God, incorrect capitalizations and one that you did not address. 2 Timothy 2:23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid knowing that they do gender strifes.
“do gender strifes” is blasphemy Teno. I am prayerful that you awaken and recognize this. There is one Gospel Teno. The Good news is Jesus. Paul does not have another gospel.
Here are some other grammar errors now appearing in the black magick tainted kjv bibles.
Leviticus 25:12 (KJV)
12 For it is the jubile; it shall be holy unto you: ye shall eat the increase thereof out of the field.
Exodus 14:13 (KJV)
13 And Moses said unto the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the Lord, which he will shew to you to day: for the Egyptians whom ye have seen to day, ye shall see them again no more for ever.
( to day. For ever )
James 4:13 (KJV)
13 Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain:
( To day or to morrow ) note incorrect capitalization of To day. See numbers 14:25 KJV for these words being together as one word. This is in ALL. editions of kjv bibles. Tomorrow is also in KJVB as one word. So this is undeniable evidence for KJV being attacked by way of demonic attack. This is an uncomfortable reality Teno but I assure you the disciples did NOT pick ears of corn! …Are you awake yet?
Leviticus 25:27 (KJV)
27 Then let him count the years of the sale thereof, and restore the overplus unto the man to whom he sold it; that he may return unto his possession.
(overplus)
asswaged and chode are now in KJV bibles. God does NOT have a Father Teno. The re-boot KJV in Revelation 1:6 now has God and his Father. Originally this verse read in a way a 6th grader would understand “God the Father”
I hope you wake up Teno. There is a famine for the word of God that has already begun. Read the lords prayer in the now blasphemied kjb Matthew 6:9-13. Read verse 14 also, TRESPASSES (verse 14) trespass is the word that previously appeared in verse 12 and is now debts.
God is NOT referenced as “which” It is forever and ever; “Our Father who art in heaven” and it is “on earth” not in earth. You were instructed to hide the word in your heart Teno. Please I beseech you to wake up while it is yet day. Do not believe for even a minute that their are 2 gospels. Shalom!
Sigh! There were no spelling and capitalization rules until almost 1800. So all your complaints about such are superfluous.
Webster’s 1828: GEN’DER, verb transitive To beget; but engender is more generally used. Again, much ado about nothing.
“His Father” refers back to Jesus Christ in verse 5. Man, you only had to read ONE more verse to figure that out.
Okay, you’ve had enough chance to spew your nonsense. Any further attempts will be ignored.
Thanks so much for this info – particularly the heaven/heavens. Priceless.
I am trying to do a study on heaven, and came across your ministry page from a search.
What excites me is to think about how man started out walking with God in a garden, and how we will end up one day seeing his face again, and having this type of fellowship.
Rev.22 3 There will no longer be any curse. The throne of God and the lamb will be in the city.[a] His servants will worship him 4 and see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads.
This is very exciting to me, and gives me great HOPE!
So, i have read through (mostly) this discussion, some of which is over my head, and yet i am troubled to see that from the very first verse in the Bible, there is controversy.
I was saved in 1978, and pretty much the KJV was the only bible to use, my first bible was the blessed Thompson Chain KJV ! I didnt realize there would be this controversy at the time, and i have come to realize there are many opinions, and concerns. I was drawn the KJV only camp, but that seemed to extreme, and often unkind. Are you an advocate of KJV Only? I am not mad about it either, just wanting to know.
My position right now is to consider various translations, and i like the NLT when the KJV doesnt seem to make sense. However, i have tried memorizing ESV, NASB, but all i can say is it doesnt “feel” right in my spirit!! I do not condemn those who use those versions, but i will stay the course with KJV and keep quiet when the arguing starts. Am i wrong in this?
it seems to me that since there are at least three heavens ( Paul explains: 2 Cor. 12 2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.)
since there are three heavens that for Genesis 1:1 to say plural would make sense. However i also do trust the KJV and it says heaven (singular) ….which leads me to ask, is this really a big deal? or just a different way of saying the same thing?
BTW i did a search and found there are at least 4 versions supporting the singular use of heaven:
BRG
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
DRA
In the beginning God created heaven, and earth.
GW
In the beginning God created heaven and earth.
NOG
In the beginning Elohim created heaven and earth.
I appreciate your time and hope you or anyone might respond. I am looking forward to heaven on the new earth! jim
People can be unkind from either side. That doesn’t make their position right or wrong. I simply BELIEVE my Bible instead of DOUBTING parts of it (like all modern version proponents do). What is so radical about that?
{{since there are three heavens that for Genesis 1:1 to say plural would make sense}}
There weren’t three heavens until God divided them after Gen 1:1. I’m glad you found a few obscure versions nobody ever heard of that got it right.
Isaiah 65:17 – can you help me with this verse? Why would Isaiah use the plural of heaven, wouldn’t that contradict Gen.1:1?
Isaiah 65:17 17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
kindly submitted, JIM
{{Why would Isaiah use the plural of heaven, wouldn’t that contradict Gen.1:1?}}
Nope. The old heavens (sky and space) will be recreated.